Adam - May 24, 2010 We have had problems with the plastic sleeve or spacer next to the rail spring. It will split. The valve in the mag has a tendency to leak. This happens when over charged especially and at other times. We are still narrowing down the issue. Very hard to find spare parts for this gun.

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There has always been the question which Escort gun is better? The Mp5 or M16? Some say the Mp5 some say the M16. Here I have a near mint condition Escort Mp5 with A-Spec spring and a Sun Project Car-15 with every upgrade available and then some. I believe that even though the Car-15 is equipped with the upgrades this is still a fair comparison. I highly doubt you will ever see a Sun Project M16 on the field without upgrades like mine or at least close to as modified. Similarly I am unaware of any major upgrades for the Mp5 besides the A-Spec spring which is in almost all stateside Escort MP5s anyways.

After shooting the Escort Mp5 and Sun Project Car-15 with every upgrade under the sun the MP5 performs equally if not better. Accuracy is very close but appears slightly better with the Car-15. Range is certainly better with the MP5 which maxes out around 20 feet farther than the Car-15. The Mp5 is shooting somewhere around 300-320fps while the Car-15 is shooting about 380-400fps. This leads me to believe that the MP5 hop up is superior the the M16 hop up. Both of these guns are based on the same system but the Mp5 has some tweaks and updates. Sniperx himself once said the MP5 engine is superior.

The blowback on the MP5 is very crisp and clean. Full auto ROF is high. I estimate it nearing 20rps. On the contrary the Car-15 blowback is longer and more drawn out with more clacks and a more audibly pleasing sound. This could be due to the fact that on every shot the bolt and recoil weight slam into the back of the stock tube right next to the shooter's ear making a very loud "CLACK" on every shot. The Car-15 kicks at least twice as hard as the MP5 due to the massive size of the steel bolt, recoil weight and the length of travel. Without measuring I'd say the Car-15's bolt travels roughly twice as far as the MP5 on every shot meaning it can gather more energy.

Maintenance and take down of the Car-15 is simple. Push on the rear pin, tilt receiver up, slide out bolt and valve. Take down of the mp5 is moderately more complex. The first step is pushing out the stock pin which is a task in itself. It may be because the gun as almost new but the pin is very tight and doesn't like to come out. Once you have the stock off push the pin out holding the pistol grip in place just behind the mag well. The pistol grip then easily slides off. Next the valve, spring guide, and spring are held in place by a large metal piece with a rod going through it and into the receiver. It's hard to explain with out actually seeing it. You need to push that rod out and then if you are doing it for the first time (like i was ) you will not be aware that the spring will send the whole valve assembly flying out of the receiver and crashing onto your kitchen floor. You can then slide the bolt out. As you can see, takedown of the Mp5 is more time consuming but still really not that hard seeing as it requires no tools. One thing to note is when you take down the MP5 as I described you have all of the working parts our of the gun besides the chamber and hop up. This includes the recoil spring. With the take down procedure I described for the Car-15 the recoil weight and spring are still inside the buffer tube although it is unnecessary to remove these parts for routine maintenance.

In my opinion the performance of these two guns is too close to call one over the other. It really all comes down to the shooting experience and sheer joy of firing the gun. The Sun Project Car-15 is simply a joy to shoot. I have not once walked away from it without a smile on my face. Honestly I was a bit disappointed with the blowback of the Mp5. There was no shoulder jolting kick, no grin inducing "CA-CLACK" and just not all that much fun. There's not as much personality to the MP5. Don't get me wrong, the Escort Mp5 is a beast of an airsoft gun but in comparison to the Sun Project M16s it leaves much to be desired in the shooting experience department. The m16s are just plain more fun to shoot.

They really are two completely different guns. One might ask, "How could they be so different? They both use the Escort system." and well in basic operation they are not all to much different. But each gun has a...personality. I guess you could actually compare them to two brothers. Both come from the same parents but have completely different personalities and quirks. The MP5 being the younger brother looking up to big brother M16.

I will be certain to give both guns their healthy dose of skirmishing and use. They are both built like tanks and I'm sure neither would be a bad choice for anyone looking to take the jump into classics or someone looking to add an extra classic or two to their classic arsenal. I'd recommend buying both.

Sun Project Car-15 ignore the Bushmaster on top

Escort MP5

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PLANofMAN - February 1, 2010 Drill Gun Holsters (found at any good sized hardware store) fit this gun pretty well. $6-25

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*Updated: Wednesday, August 8th, 2007

This is my review of the KWA Glock 17. It is a Gas powered Semi-Auto Blowback Pistol, more commonly referred to as a “GBB”. Before we get into the review here are some specs given by KWA, the rest of the specs in the review will be what I have found, unless noted other wise.
Length: 186 mm / 7.32 in
Width: 33 mm / 1.18 in
Height: 138 mm / 5.43 in
Weight: 1.8lbs
FPS: 300-310FPS (With Green Gas)

Components I used: In these reviews I used my KWA G17 pistol with Propane instead of Green Gas. This is becoming a more popular alternative to the high price air soft specific “Top Green Gas” which has been found to be simply propane with a bit of silicone oil added. If you plan on using propane in your KWA G17 you need to purchase an Air soft Innovations Propane adapter, and a small 1lb propane bottle typically used for camping. Also note that propane doesn’t have the added silicone oil that green gas does, so make sure you put a couple drops of 100% silicone oil in the adapter before every couple fills to keep your seals from being damaged. During these test I used Air soft Elite Black .2G BB’s.


Cost: I ordered my KWA G17 from airsoftatlanta.com, with it I order the air soft Innovations propane adapter. Because my order was over $100 I received free shipping. The total came out to slightly less then $150. By paying the $30 for the adapter in the long-run I will be saving money because green gas is selling for much more then propane. All-in-all this seems like a great value if the pistol performs the way I’ve heard it does. Keep reading to see if that’s the case.

Packaging: Well the packaging was pretty standard fair. It doesn’t come in a foam lined pistol case, but the packaging is fine, and effective. A cardboard box with a block of Styrofoam cut out to fit the pistol and its various components. One thing I did like was that there was enough room that I was able to fit my air soft innovations Propane adapter, which is nice because I’ve got everything I need except for BB’s and Gas in one box. A cool feature is the inside of the top for the box has a nice “KSC FBI Target”. And to my surprise it isn’t glued to the box in any way, I just unfolded the top, removed it, and folded it back together, using some CA glue to make sure it would stay together. I then photocopied the target a couple times, and it is a fun thing to test your accuracy. The box art isn’t anything special with a picture of the pistol on it, and some Chinese writing along the side and “KWA Glock 17”.

Looks & Feel: Opening the box you realize you’ve got a great looking pistol. It isn’t a beautiful fully machined custom pistol, but it’s an extremely realistic looking Glock 17. If you like the looks of Glocks then you’ll love the way this pistol looks. I compared it to a neighbor’s real Glock 17 and I could not find a difference apart from the orange tip, and the lack of trademarks. The orange tip is really the only thing that looks bad on the pistol, but as we all know is required by law when they ship it. So when I opened the box the first thing that came to mind is removing the orange tip, but unlike many other guns it isn’t a easily removable orange plastic tip but a very thick layer of orange paint. The only way your going to remove it is by sanding it off, and then repainting it black which is pretty tedious. When you first pick the pistol up it of its box it feels very sturdy with a slight rattle when you really shake it. I’ve found that rattle to be mainly between the outer barrel and the slide. Once you insert the full-metal magazine into the pistol it feels great. The magazine sits in very securely, and seems like its definitely going to stay in there until you take it out. I haven’t broken out a scale to weigh the difference but holding the real-steel and the KWA version in your hands it’s impossible to tell the difference. I was a bit worried when I ordered the pistol that it would be too small for my hands, but I had never held a Glock before, and it’s good to know I was completely wrong. Unless you’ve got hands the size of André the giant or Mini-me this pistol should feel great in your hands.


Getting ready to shoot: I was running my G17 off of propane, so my first job was to install the air soft innovations adapter, and put as little oil in it. This is my first GBB, so it took me a little bit to figure out how to remove the plastic guard on the bottom of the magazine, and this is were I noticed that the instructions that came with this pistol are really not good enough. It gives you the bare basics, which is perfectly fine for someone who’s owned a GBB before but for a newbie to GBB’s like me it can cause a bit of trouble. Well, I filled the gas, and in the instructions it says fill until gas seeps from the valve. I held it on for around 10 secs, and realized that wasn’t going to happen. At least for me this doesn’t work. I just hold it down for 5-6 seconds, and that seems to fill it fine, and I’m able to get about 2.5 magazines out of each fill. The last thing to do was load the BB’s, and here is pretty much the only gripe I have about the pistol. The BB’s load from the top, and they are stacked in the magazine in a stager formation. They have an included funnel accessory to make loading faster but you can't just pour a bunch of BB's in because the BB's must be in a staggered fashion. So you still need to load it a single BB at a time, this tool just makes it a little easier for some people. I've learned how to re-load fairly quickly without it, so I don't use this piece. Loading the magazine into the pistol it feels very secure, and I can't imagine it ever falling out. Also remember to hit the spring release once you load it. I forgot to and took about 4-5 shots before I realized it wasn’t shooting BB’s.

Rate of Fire, Kick, Power ect.: I first went out and took some shots, and I was pretty surprised with the rate which I could fire off BB’s. Obviously not on the level of a full automatic, but still a fast shooting pistol. This was the first air soft Glock I’ve ever shot so I wasn’t sure exactly what to expect but the recoil is pretty good with the stock spring. I have fired other GBB’s before and the kick on this is as good as any. KWA claims the pistol shooting around 310 FPS, and that’s right were mine was shooting. That’s plenty for any CQB, and leaves a satisfying sting on your opponents. I did notice a slight problem that towards the end of the 2nd clip the last 1,or 2 shots the gun wouldn’t fully cycle. However from what I've heard the Guarder Enhanced recoil spring gets rid of this problem, adds a bit of kick, and helps it cycle faster, sounds great for a part that costs around $7. The Guarder Recoil spring, and any other upgrades I add to this pistol will be added to this review.

Accuracy: Ok, well the first thing to do is adjust the hop-up it’s located in the slide, and you adjust it with an included key. I found it a little challenging to do, and the wrench doesn’t work very well, but I had it adjusted pretty quickly. Once it was adjusted the pistol could hit a human sized target 9-10 out of 10 times from about 115feet. At 125 it was about 7-8 out of 10, and at 150 it was around 4 out of ten. That’s very good considering it’s a completely stock pistol, and more then enough for CQB. With a good tight bore I’m sure this thing will be an extremely accurate pistol. One thing I did notice is the BB’s seemed to curve slightly to the left. Although we would al like a perfectly straight shooting pistol I would rather have one that consistently shoots a bit off to one side then one that will randomly aim off in all directions. In the end with .2G BB’s this thing is as accurate as most other pistols out there. From what I’ve heard adding a KM tight bore barrel makes the pistol much more accurate giving you full confidence in consistent shots out to the 150ft range. Because for sometime I am going to be using this pistol as a primary the KM tight bore is something I’m defiantly going to buy.


Upgrades & Modifications: At the time of this review the pistol was completely stock. This pistol has a great after-market support. There is a wide range of upgrade parts, and common modifications for this pistol. Some of the more common include: tight bore barrels to improve accuracy, Recoil springs to provide a snappier recoil, and quicker feeding, and Hi-flow valves. Also many people have come up with great looking results by removing the black paint from the slide and barrel, and sanding, or polishing the metal to their desired taste, it’s a great pretty simple way to personalize the look of your Glock. I plan on installing the tight bore barrel, and a Guarder Enhanced Recoil Spring and Guide Rod, and polishing the slide.

UPDATE: Since this review was written I installed a guarder enhanced recoil spring, and it does give a slight increase in kick and does seem to cycle the bb’s a bit quicker. The main reason I got it was to get rid of the pistols tendencies towards the end of the gas fill to not fully cycle. IT fixes this problem 100%. I highly recommend you pick this little piece up.

Conclusion: In the end the KWA Glock 17 is in my opinion a great pistol. It shoots pretty accurately, feels great, has plenty of power, looks awesome, and probably its most defining characteristic it is built like a tank, and should last you a long long time. The only gripes I had about it were very miniscule things (magazine a little slow to load, sights slightly off to right), and really don’t have much of an affect on the guns performance. I would definitely recommend it too anyone looking to have a great side-arm, or even something to use as a primary (what I plan on doing for a while).


Re-cap
Cost: 9.5/10
Packaging: 8/10
Looks & Feel: 9/10
ROF, Kick, Power, ECT: 8.5/10
Accuracy: 8/10
Upgrades and modifications: 8.5/10
Conclusion: 8.75/10

UPDATE: Since this review I have stripped the black paint off the slide and barrel and polished them. Here’s some basic instructions on how to do this, and get great results. If you have any more questions send me a PM.
1. Remove the Slide from the frame by: Removing the magazine, Cocking the slide back and pushing down the two little tabs on each side of the frame, then push the slide forward and it should come right off.
2. Remove the recoil spring, by just popping it out.
3. Remove the outer barrel by sliding it forward and pulling it out. MAKE SURE TO SLIDE THE INNER BARREL/HOP-UP ASSEMBLY OUT OF THE OUTER BARREL
4. There is a single screw that holds the rest of the internals on. remove it and slide out the rest of the internals in one piece making sure to not let the 2 long springs fall out.
5. I forgot this step to remove the sights, so I'm not exactly sure how to do it.
6. Soak the outer barrel and slide in Acetone for at least 12-14 hours (Overnight)
7. Take out the slide and outer barrel spray them down with alcohol, and wipe them down.
8. Being dry sanding off all the black paint using 800 grit sandpaper.
9. Next Once all the black paint has been removed begin dry sanding with 1000 grit sandpaper.
10. Again, dry sand with 1000 grit sandpaper. So you know the higher paper you go to the smoother the finish will be. it might not look like that much now but with abit more sanding and a good polishing it will look great.
11. I choose to dry sand again with 1200 and then 1500 grit sandpaper.
12. I then finished off with a bit of wet sanding with the same 1500 grit sandpaper.
13. Using whichever metal polish you choose hand polish the slide a few times.
14. Now using a Dremel and a buff wheel polish the slide.
15. I like to polish one last time by hand.
16. And there you go, you’ve finished the slide
For the outer barrel/ejection port I only used the 800 grit sandpaper, and polished it by hand a few times.

Here’s some pictures without the sights installed.

peter kelly - June 11, 2010 looks good ... good job ... does the new recoil spring really make a difference ???

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About a week ago I found a deal on evike that I just could not pass up. Evike's ebay account, Magic Club, sometimes has some amazing deals on airsoft stuff. This particular day Magic Club was selling WE 1911's for $85, shipped with two magazines included. The WE 1911 was described as a full metal GBB shooting at an fps of 320 (.2g bbs). The price was right. So today my gun arrived.


Kind of nice that the gun came with its own case. One thing that was quite evidently missing was any form of direction manual! So apparently you have to figure out everything about the gun on your own....Ok...

Forgive the glamor shots :wink:









So my takedown pics aren't done, I've been doing a lot of other fiddling so far. I will complete this tomorrow...

I should have taken a picture of the tip before I took it off. But the first thing you will have to do with this gun is remove the stupid orange tip. To do it I would first reccomend pulling the slide all the way back and locking it back. Then take some vice grips or pliars to the darn tip. Don't try and pull it straight out, I removed it by rocking it slowly side to side. The removal of the tip is necessary if you want to take your gun apart.

With the barrel tip removed you are free to remove the front end of your gun. Firstly you will want to press this button down


While holding the button down you are now free to move the end of the barrel clockwise.


It should turn until it reaches the point that is shown in the picture. When it reaches this position you can now pull it out and away from the barrel, leaving you with this:


Next you will want to remove the slide. To do that you will first need to remove the slide catch. Pull the slide back until it reaches this point:

With the slide in this position you can now press this button

Pressing that button with the slide catch in the position shown above, you can then push the slide catch out away from the frame...and pull it out.


So now you are free to remove the slide! Simply pull the slide off the gun by pulling it to the muzzle end of the gun. Once you have done that you will be left with two pieces.



Impressions so far:

The paint on the gun is rather cheap, it seems similar to the stuff on CA guns. I've noticed a few spots where the paint is already starting to chip, but I'll likely touch them up with some flat black. I'm currently experiencing some trouble with shooting the gun itself. Upon filling up a magazine and pulling the trigger, the sound is actually quite impresive. But once the trigger is pulled and the slide flies back, it stays there. The slide catch wants to catch the slide each and every time the trigger is pulled. Once the magazine is close to empty this problem seems to dissapear, and the gun fires normally. I suspect this may be fixed easily enough with a little lube. The blowback action is strong, and the sound is very impressive. Tomorrow I will post some info regarding accuracy, with pics of course. A finished takedown guide will also be posted.

Two ten round magazines were fired at the target, from a distance of 20 feet. I used .2g bb's. As of yet I have not fiddled with the hopup. The hopup setting I am using is what it was set on upon arrival at my house. I will test this later tonight and adjust the hopup, then posting the results.



The 20 bb's created a grouping 3 inches high of the X's center. The bb's went straight through the heavy poster board, and then proceeded to exit through the cardboard backing. The bb's had enough force to bounce off the wall behind the target, and come back at me.



BTW, shots were fired in my work room. On monday I will be at an indoor pistol range, and will see how this gun fares at the 50 foot mark.


EDIT:

Ok I played around with the hopup. Here's what I have now. I used .2g bb's and .29g bb's, both targets are labeled. The taarget on the left only had 20 rounds fired at it, the target on the right had 40 rounds fired at it. At 20 feet the weight of the bb seemed to make absolutely no difference, as can be seen in the picture below.


As I already said, on Monday I will test the accuracy at 50 feet.

In regards to your questions UMGuy. I would definatly reccomend this gun. So far the charge put into the magazine seems...finicky, though it may just need broken in. I've been putting 6 seconds worth of gas into the mag. The standard 3 seconds was barely finishing a magazine of 10 shots. 6 seconds worth of gas will average between 25 and 30 shots per magazine. As for quality? You will not find a single seam anywhere on this gun. All the metal is molded with great precision, and fitted together flawlessly. The metal appears to be similar to what CA makes their guns out of. Simple attempts to produce bending or flexing have showed structural strength, no flexing has occured.

Lonestar: When your gun arrives please share your thoughts in here. I want to know how you rate the gun in comparison to myself.

All shots were fired from a distance of 50 feet at an indoor range. Indoor temperatore was approximatly 35 degrees. I used .29g bbs, and fired from a standing position.

Four 10 round magazines were fired at this first target


One 5 round magazine was fired at this target


While the groupings may not be impressive, keep two things in mind. The gun, mags, and gas were sitting in my vehicle in 15 degree weather for a period of 10 hours. After this time I attempted to warm the magazines before filling them. We all know gas efficiency is shit in the cold. The fact that I could fire off a magazine in a 35 degree environment and still get that amount of range is pretty decent in my opinion.

Justin: I would definatly reccomend the WE. ~25 rounds per magazine, its full metal, great kick and loud recoil, shoots quite hard. Lets not forget the sheer badass factor

This past weekend I finally picked up a set of real steel walnut grips for my 1911. Upon removing my stock grips and placing these over the screw holes I found a slight problem. The screw holds on the real steel are not in the exact same position as they are on the airsoft version. Fortunately this is an easy fix. All you need to do is take your dremel, or even a drill press and put a 1-1.5cm indentation on the back of the grip. This will be enough for the grips to sit neatly in place, and the screws go in just fine.




Just thought I'd give some updates on this gun as I've not posted in a while, and people had been questioning how durable the gun would be. It has now been 3 months since I purchased this gun. I have not observed any changes in magazine capacity, or velocity. I was warned that the metal used on this gun is cheap and prone to rust, though I have not noticed any rust at all. The recoil seems as strong as it did when I initially obtained the piece. Next week is Safari Strike 3, so I will likely give this piece some intense field testing.

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Ordering:
About 2 weeks ago my friends starting upgrading their arsenals. I had been in the lead with my TM SPAS, but then 2 of my friends got GBB Sigma's as sidearms. I quickly realized that when it came down to a pistol fight, I was a bit outgunned with just my KWC 1911 spring pistol. I started looking around both locally and online for a gas powered pistol with respectable FPS. My first choice was the clear Crosman USP Co2 NBB, but Kmart was sold out. After a bit of searching it came down (as it has for many people in airsoft history) to a choice between the UHC USP NBB, or the HFC M80 commander NBB. I chose the HFC for a few reasons:

>Higher advertised FPS than the USP (230 vs 280 with .20g).
>Very few gas leaks reported.
>I hate USP's, I love 1911's.
>Mags for the HFC are cheap.
>I wanted a semi-compact gun

I ordered the M80 itself, plus a 1110ml can of green gas, which came out to $59 shipped. I ordered the gun on the friday before the memorial day weekend, so of course it took a whole week for it to get from Newark to Orlando.



What you get:
The gun comes in a standard styrofoam package with a green cardboard lid. The gun comes with a small can of HFC134a(not the one in the picture), a tiny squeeze bottle of sillicon lube, and a bag of about 100 decent .12's.

Looks/feel:
The M80 is a replica of the series 80 Colt Commander 1911 in .45 ACP. Its slide is about a half inch shorter than a standard 1911. I chose the two tone version of the gun. The slide is made of nice, non reflective plastic, very similar to the slide on my KWC Gold cup. The frame is made of decently done stainless steel colored plastic. Textured and non reflective, but with a nice shine in the right light. The external metal parts of the gun are: The muzzel cowling and outer barrel, the trigger, the safety, and the hammer. The metal is not well finished, but it is strong. the weight of the gun is good, the box says 1.15 lbs ,and that feels about right. it has nice diamond checkered grips too.

Trigger mechansim:

this being a Non blowback pistol, it uses a double/single action trigger. I dont have a scale I can use to measure, but its definatly a lighter pull in DA than my Co2 BB gun. The pull is smooth and breaks clean, and the trigger resets quickly. Single action of course gives you a shorter pull ,but otherwise feels the same as double action. I would definatly reccomend carrying this cocked and locked if you are using it as a sidearm. The gun chamberes the BB in the same way as my daisy co2 1911 BB gun. pulling the trigger moves the barrel backward, allowing a BB to feed up into the chamber.



Sights:
The HFC M80 uses a set of target sights. These are not as well suited to combat as other types of sights, but they work well enough. The rear sight is adjustable for elevation, but not windage. This isnt a problem as the gun comes from the factory pretty much dead on at 60 feet.*EDIT8 I painted an outline on the rear sight, and a dot on the front sight. This makes the sights very easy to aquire, so the problem of them being blocky is basicly eliminated.

Magazine:

This is one area where this pistol could have been done better. The magazine itself is a 14 round stick type mag, similar to what is used in the TM AEP's, but single stacked. Its made of cheapish feeling plastic, and the stopper and spring release are basicly springy peices of sheet metal. If mags werent so inexpensive for this gun, I would be worried about it breaking. The biggest gripe I have with the magazine system is that you have to pull it out of the gun! No mag release, just pull it out like an EBB pistol mag. It sits in the gun well ,and I know its not going to fall out or anything, but it really cuts down on the realism of the gun.




Firing.

Filling this gun with gas is suprisingly easy compared to my friends KWA M93R. The big difference is of course that in this case you are filling the gun with gas rather than the mag. You dont have to be holding the can at just the right angle, and its very easy to tell when the tank is full. I always fill for 4 seconds, and I get about 6 mags woth of gas out of every fill (very efficiant). Loading the mags is easy, but a little time consuming. The mags are not designed to be filled with a speed loader, but you could do it fairly easily.



The guns advertised FPS on shorty is 280 with .20g, and on HFC's website its 265 with .20g. id say its actually right in the middle. Its equal, if not slightly nore powerful than my friends UHC Mp5. Accuracy is great for a pistol aswell. Off hand I was shooting about 4-5 inch groups at 40 feet, which is more than adequate for a sidearm. The most suprising thing about this gun was its noise level. With .20g BB's ,and the HFC134a the gun came with, its pretty much dead quiet. I could easily make a small silencer to mount to this thing(it has provisions for an adapter, so you could even buy one), and it would be absolutely unhearable.



Conclusions.

Not having a UHC USP to compare this to, i cant really say which is better. I can only go by what ive heard. The USP has the upper hand in realism and features, but as far as performance goes the M80 would win hands down. I have only had the gun for one day, so I cant say anything about the long term relaibility, but given the simple design ,and the fact that most if not all lof the internal peices on this gun are metal, I dont see having any problems. Here are the pros and cons of the gun.

+ Powerful
+ Accurate
+ Comfortable
+ Gas efficiant
+ Inexpensive
+ Uses a well designed firing system
+ Extra mags are inexpensive
+ Quiet (wont give away your position)

- Finish on the metal parts could be better
- Slide does not move (but is a seperate peice)
- Sights are not the best for combat*
- Lowish mag capacity
- Quiet (Wont scare or intimidate your opponents)
- Magazine is unrealistic, ugly, and somewhat cheaply made.

All in all, I like the gun, and I feel it was a smart choice given my budget. If you are looking for an inexpensive NBB pistol, you should seriously concider the HFC M80 Commander 1911.

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Introduction This is the review of the Tokyo Marui 1911a1 which is to be given away in mid-August, for our ASC 3.0 kickoff contest. We received the gun from www.trinityairsoft.com who is sponsoring the contest, and we must say that the gun arrived two days after being shipped, well packaged, and we would like to thank them for providing us with excellent service. You also may be able to catch them in our forums, as they have a member account here.   I must start the review by discussing how much I love this model. I do not know why, but I have always thought of the 1911 model to be very genuine looking, especially the a1 model. Maybe it’s the World War II video games or movies, but I just like the gun’s style, its look, its history, and pretty much everything else about it. I guess it is a mystery then why I do not own one myself, but I guess it is about time I have my hands on one for review. I do however have experience with other 1911’s as I have a close friend who is also into 1911’s and actually owns one! I was very excited to check out this gun, and was even more excited when I opened the box to see this beautiful piece snuggly placed into a packing, which was covered by an olive drab cloth (pictured above). From this point on the gun only got better too, and I must say I am going to be sad to give this up… even if it is given to one of our very own loyal members. I am glad I was able to check the gun out however, and maybe when I am finished the review I’ll have to get one for myself as well. First Impressions As I began with in the previous paragraph, the gun was impressive in its packaging. The above picture shows the olive drab box which the trademarks removed, as well as the manual with comes packaged with the gun. In addition to the manual the package also contains the typical Tokyo Marui product line booklet, some paper targets, instructions on using the gun (and if your lucky they are in English too), as well as an un-tool. As can be seen in the first picture the gun also comes with an olive drab box of BBs, which I will let the winner of the gun open for them self. The looks of the gun sitting in the olive drab packing were incredible. The past two guns I have reviewed (both new models; this and the ICS AK74) have had very impressive packaging which really cause the first impression of the gun to be an experience. Not to mention making the box that much more appealing to store the product. I did not waste anytime, I quickly picked up the gun and the magazine, and after a brief examination put the magazine in to get the full feel for the gun. The gun weighs in at a little less than two pounds according to Trinity Airsoft, which is a pretty comfortable weight. It is about what you would expect from this pistol, solid weight, but nothing surprisingly heavy. The weight is distributed well too. This makes it very easy to move around, aim, and hold the gun steady. Until you have a gun that is not balanced, you may not appreciate this feature, but it is a big deal, and luckily there is nothing to worry about with this gun Whenever I describe this gun to someone in person, I use the word “smooth”. This is simply because the gun feels and looks great, has a great feel to it, all the moving parts move easily, and I just can not find a problem with the gun. Like most Marui’s, they do not overwhelm you with flash, like full metal guns (this gun is a very solid plastic by the way), but simply give you a solid and smooth product. A product that always feels finished and reliable. It is very hard for one to describe in words, as I am trying to do, that this gun has a great feel to it, and therefore deserves the word “smooth”. The gun as mentioned is almost all plastic, the plastic parts include the slide, receiver, and brown grip. Behind the grip however is a metal piece, about where you would put the base of your palm and thumb which is metal. The safety feature that gets pushed in by your thumb is metal, and below that is metal too which adds to the weigh significantly and really makes it feel solid. In addition to that the trigger and hammer are metal, as well as the magazine, slide catch, safety, magazine release, and internals. As can be seen in the image above the trademarks which are not legal in the United States (because they use the marks of real companies such as Colt in this case) are covered up with a sort of tape. I will be making no attempt to remove these. I will inform you however of what the uncovered trademarks say Top Line: APR.20.1897.SEPT.9.1902 [black tape]PT.F.A.MFG.CO. Bottom Line: DEC.19.1905.FEB.14.1911.AUG.19.1913[black tape]HARTFORD.CT.U.S.A Click here to see a larger image of the side of the gun yourself! (Large Image File) Even with the tape over the trademarks, the unhidden marks on the gun add to the genuine feel of the gun, and give you the real Colt 1911 feeling.   The other side contains some Tokyo Marui trademarks above the trigger, as well as some realistic trademarks farther up the barrel, with only a small portion taped over as can be seeing above.   Top Line: ASGK Tokyo Marui Made in Japan [SPACE] M1911A1 [TAPE] Army Bottom Line (serial number): No.871072   Click here to see a larger image of this side of the gun yourself! (Large Image File)     Operation   The gun operates like pretty much every other gas pistol out there, you put the loaded magazine in, fill it up with gas, and pull back the slide and fire. The gun when out of BB’s will catch the slide when it comes back, not allowing the gun to be dry fired, and letting you know it is empty, just like on the real models. Even when this model airosft gun is loaded with BB’s and gas, in order to fire at all, the hammer must be back, and you must be holding the gun correctly (the metal piece on the back the pistol grip must be pushed in to pull the trigger). In addition to this, there is a safety which you can put on, which prevents the slide from going back at all, which therefore prevents the gun from firing. Safety in place, holding the slide in place. Lower right also reveals the safety feature, requiring the gun to be held properly to be fired. The operation of the gun is just as smooth as the looks and feel of it. The slide moves very smoothly, with a very nice sound to it if I do say so myself. The gun operates like clockwork; so far every little feature has been bullet proof. It never fails to catch the slide when empty; the safety systems all work, the BB’s never fail to load, so far… so awesome.   Performance The performance of this gun, like everything else above, is solid and above average. The gun shoots very consistently, and has quite a bit of pop, and range for a sidearm. I was surprised when I put my .25g BB’s in there, to see the BB go swiftly and accurately, for a good distance. I did not measure it out, but I would say the gun can shoot pretty effectively for 75-100 feet, and has more range than that obviously.   The gun has a good ROF for a pistol, of course it is a semi-automatic, but there is not much delay in fires, you are able to get your entire 26 round magazine off pretty quickly, and accurately as well. The gun as mentioned above has a good weight distribution, which is fantastic for quick aiming, and action, which is obviously a huge part of the game of Airsoft.       Click here to see a 10 second clip of the gun shooting! Clip not taking to show accuracy (was holding a gun and a camera), just to see it in action a little bit. Who is this gun for?   The gun comes in at a very reasonable price for what you are getting; an upper end, reliable, gas blow back pistol. The gun carries the Tokyo Marui brand name well, as you always get a reliable and solid product and get what you pay for, and deserve. So this is definitely a good choice if you are simply looking for a solid and reliable side arm to accompany your AEG or whatever your primary weapon may be. This is also a good product for those of you who may want a legit Airsoft gun, but do not quite have the budget to reach an AEG. This thing would definitely be a fun product to shoot around, and can even compete with the AEGs (if you are good of course). Also in that same group are those who just want to shoot around the house or backyard Airsoft if you will, as it is not too high of a price, and is quick and easy to use. Does not need to charge anything, just load the gas, and go shooting.   This product also has the unique quality of being a very popular and good looking product. It is a very nice looking gun, comes in a very nice looking package, and would be a very good addition to anyone who likes collecting Airsoft guns for their genuine look. The gun has a great look to it, does not have the actual metal parts as the real gun, but you wouldn’t be able to tell that until you got really close to it, or even flicked it once or twice.   Conclusion As you would expect from a new Tokyo Marui Airsoft product, the gun is an all around winner. It does not do anything flashy or crazy for you, but simply gets the job done, and gives you what you want. The gun looks fantastic, feels solid, is realistic, and performs as a good gas blow back should. What more could you ask for? I am really glad I got the opportunity to finally be able to use a 1911a1 model, and the Marui was a great one to try. As you can probably tell I had a hard time finding a flaw with the gun, I usually can find at least something to say I did not like, or simply got on my nerves… but nothing. The gun is solid. If you are looking for a Colt M1911A1, or any GBB for that matter, this is a good choice. I may even have to get one for myself =)   - Meatball

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Most experienced Airsoft players carry some sort of sidearm. These are used as backup guns, and have particular importance in CQB games when deployment of long arms is too cumbersome, or impractical. The KJW Para P14.45 fills this role quite well.



The KJW Para P14.15 is a model of the real steel Para Ordnance PXT P14.45 pistol. First introduced in 1988, this handgun is a double stacked single action .45 ACP based off of the classic 1911 auto pistol. In short it's the .45 for the modern era. The PXT adds a Beavertail grip safety, ambidextrous slide lock safety, and 14 +1 round capacity to the original design.

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The UHC (unicorn hobby company) USP NBB (non-blow-back) is a cheap pistol with a price range varying from around 35$-50$. Now, as a general rule, I will tell you that you get what you pay for. This gun disproves my theory.

Originally I had bought a used usp off of ebay, and it was more or less dead. It broke a few weeks after I received it (the hammer got stuck, and the grip was cracked, obviously due to EXTREME abuse from the previous owner, because this gun is rock solid)



I then decided to order 2 new Usp’s from www.evike.com. There was a slight mix up, but they willingly resolved everything. I order a package deal, and they forgot to include the gas(1100ml green gas), and 2000 of their extremely high grade bb’s. I emailed them, and they shipped everything out ASAP.







The gun comes in a nicely decorated box that looks much better, and more attractive than any other box out there. Even though that is a minor detail, it is just re-assuring to know that the company went out of their way to make something like that, a minor detail just that much better.







Another great thing about the box is that it can fold into a bb trap. The instructions are on the bottom of the box.







The only one small problem with that is that the usp can penetrate the thick cardboard from anywhere under 20 feet.







There are quite a few warning symbols on the box, such as “Age 18+ to purchase”, “follow all air gun laws and regulations”, and the most important, “Must wear eye protection.” With all the news reports, and bad press toward air soft, I am very glad that UHC put those warnings up there. Please ladies and gents, wear eye protection, and be responsible. It will help everyone, including you, and every other air softer out there.







When I first received the box, I was mildly excited. I already owned one, so I wasn’t really expecting anything new. I took the package inside, and unwrapped the box. Of coarse the gas, and bb’s were missing, but I had some left over. The first thing I noticed was how clean everything looked. Normally there are papers everywhere, sometimes chunks of the styrophoam mold. This is not the case with the usp. The box is clean, and the papers are tucked away behind the bb trap part, which you need to punch out.





One thing I noticed on the box is how it says “Designed with cold weather performance with no energy wasted on slide movement.” Of coarse it is easy to tell consumers that it is designed for cold weather performance. I, at first, just thought they threw that in there to make it sound a little bit better. This proved not to be the case.







I went outside on a 47 degree day to fire off the first few shots, so first I loaded up the magazine with about 13 bb’s, which is a bit of a pain at first, but you can get used to it. You can’t lock the spring down, so you need to hold it down, and you need to hold the magazine completely vertical otherwise bb’s will go to far back, and get caught in the gas feeding cylinder. I then put the gas in the magazine via the small gas nozzle on the bottom of the magazine. On occasion, the gas will cause a little ice around the nozzle, but your breath is warm enough to melt that. After about 7 seconds of applying the gas, I was ready to go.







The first magazine was a blast to shoot. I hung my sweatshirt about 30 feet away to get the closest size I could get to a torso, and shot at that. I hit it 11/13 times. 2 of the bb’s went wild for some odd reason. Judging by the coke can test, I would say this gun shoots about 250 fps in cold weather, and maybe 280 in warm weather. The bb broke the can, but didn’t actually go through into the can. It made a dent, and a small crack where the bb hit. After practicing my aim, I can now hit a torso sized target 30 feet away 100% of the time.







I had heard on some reviews that this gun could shoot about 3 full magazines before there was an obvious drop in power. This however was not the case. I got 6 ½ magazines off before I ran out of gas. I saw the drop after 5 FULL magazines, and I was still shooting about 40 feet after the drop. Keep in mind; this was on a VERY cold day.







So far, I was impressed with everything about this gun, minus 2 things: consistency, and the Trademarks, and lack there of. As I mentioned, I had a problem with the consistency of the usp. (Keep in mind, this gun is only 40$, about 100$ less than your average competition grade Gas pistol). Most of the shots will follow a fairly straight line, and follow the previous bb perfectly, but every 5 or 6 shots, one shot will go more left or right than all the others. I am going to look into that, and see if I can find out why that is, but it is happening on both of my usp’s, so I’m assuming that it’s the gun, and not something I did to it.











Pros:



-Great in cold weather



-Very cost effective



-Accurately modeled after the real steel usp



-High gas efficiency



Cons:



-non metal (only exterior metal part is trigger)



-no trade marks



-some wild shots



-no aftermarket upgrade parts











Sites- 8/10



Gas efficiency- 10/10



Cold weather performance-10/10



Accuracy- 7/10



Build quality-9/10



Durability-10/10



Accessorability-8/10



Value for money-10/10







As an overall grade for this gun, I give it 8.5 out of 10. This is not based off of 40$ guns, but based off all gas guns in general. This gun is truly the best purchase I have ever made, and I suggest you do the same if you want a great backup pistol for a cheap price

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