TSD MIL4 TAN AEG REVIEW

First Impression

I have already reviewed the TSD Sports M4, and I assumed this model would be quite similar, and therefore quite impressive. The obvious difference between the two products is the color. This on is tan wherever the gun is plastic, and therefore offers not only a unique M4 (which is hard to come by in the Airsoft world) but also provides an AEG which is more camouflaged.

The gun came in a Styrofoam package with a cardboard top, as have all the other TSD Sports guns I have had the opportunity to review. I have no complaints of the packaging. Obviously the first thing to catch my eye was the color. As can be seen in the pictures the gun comes across as multi-colored with a good portion being the standard black, with the bulk of the gun’s body being covered by the earthy tan color. The tan color definitely scores some points when it comes to the “cool” factor and should also help you avoid getting spotted out in the field.

Much like when I reviewed the TSD Sports M4 Commando, I was shocked by how well this $170 MSRP gun was put together. As I discuss more thoroughly in my other review when I started Airsoft this price for an AEG would have basically meant the gun was nearly worthless in a skirmish and now that is far, far, far from the truth. In fact this gun is ready to compete against the best with its M110 Spring and Generation II gearbox and internals, propelling BB’s at 330+ fps.

I picked up the gun out of the packaging and was impressed by its weight, and the overall solid feel of the product. There was no wobble or loose ends, and it just felt sturdy to hold. This is always a reassuring feeling when you pick up a newly purchased gun. The one difference I noticed from when I first opened the other TSD M4 was that the tan color made it more obvious that the gun was plastic. While when the plastic was black I had to tap it just to make sure it was indeed plastic, this tan color left little doubt. That is not all that big of a deal as from five to ten feet away in most types of lighting, you can not tell that it is plastic.

The metal parts are more-or-less all the parts that remain black on this product. As you can see in the picture that includes important structural pieces such as the stock, the outer barrel, the sights, the pins, etc. The combination of black and tan make this a very sharp looking gun, and I would have to imagine that if it had been entirely tan, it would not look quite as good.

Overall the first impression was a good one, and my initial inspection left me with a lot to look forward to.

Look & Feel

I discussed a lot of this in the first impression section but to recap the looks of the gun are great, and better than you would expect considering its price tag. The gun is built to last, and is sharp. I examined several important parts of the gun such as the outer barrel, stock, and hand guard ring. The outer barrel is made of metal and is one piece. The barrel tends to bump into things quite often in a skirmish so it is quite important to me that it is metal, and will hold up. I remember my early Airsoft days with a spring rifles were turning too fast in the woods led to me losing my outer barrel as it snapped off when it hit a tree. Ever since then I have taken notice of this part of the gun. No worries here, the barrel should be ready for the occasional abuse of a skirmish.

The stock is also another place I worry about the stress of a skirmish. Again looking back at my days with spring rifles, I have also snapped the barrel off of a gun while diving for cover (So now you can take your time to imagine me running around with my spring G3a3 that didn’t have an outer barrel or a stock). So I also made sure to check this AEG to make sure this was not a weak point. As I anticipate the stock was metal and seemed to be up to par with my durability expectations.

The hand guard ring is where the receiver meets the hand guards and has always been a critical part of the Airsoft M4 replica design. The old Tokyo Marui M4a1’s were plagued with barrel wobble where the whole front of the gun wobbled as you used it, really making the gun unstable. Obviously fixes have been made since then, and following companies have improved upon their design to prevent this problem. This is still a part of the gun which will carry a lot of stress over the course of its life, as the heavy battery in the front causes a lot of pressure on the connection to that receiver. After careful inspection, like nearly all M4 replicas following the Tokyo Marui version, I would not expect barrel wobble to be that big of an issue (this of course assumes normal wear and tear).

It may seem obvious that these parts of the gun would be strong and durable, but I think it is important to note. This gun is a cheaper version of their higher quality TSD Tactical line, and it is comforting to know that they did not take short cuts in any key areas of the guns structure. As we will see later this also holds up true when it comes to the guns performance.

This model does have the removable carry handle with the 5/8” rail which is ready to mount accessories. Not a bad spot for a laser or red dot scope. The carry handle as can be seen is also tan with the knobs for loosening and tightening it being metal and black. The sights are also metal, black and adjustable. There is a horizontal wheel which allows you to move the sight horizontally and vertical wheel which adjusts the sight vertically. In addition to that the sight flips between its two options, one which is a regular size hole (probably as accurate as you need for this particular Airsoft gun) but then it also has a narrower sight for sharp shooting which is a nice touch for realism as well as target practice. It appears that no shortcuts were made on the detachable carry handle either.

When it comes to trademarks this gun pretty much goes with out them. This does not really bother me but I know some are picky about their trademarks. You have a “Made in Taiwan” text on the left side by the selector switch, and nothing on the other side other than the marks indicating the firing options (safe, semi, full auto). This does not particularly bother me because the gun does not look bare to me without trademarks, and some Airsoft replicas try to make up their own trademarks and sometimes do not do such a good job. I would prefer having no trademarks over a weird trademark, or a trademark which was scratched off to make it legal. So both sides of the receiver simply have the bare minimum of trademarks.

Performance

The performance is where the price tag of the gun amazes me. The gun shoots with a decent rate of fire (advertised as 720 RPM) and also with a decent amount of pop (330+ fps). Both of these seem about accurate from my experience with the gun as the gun definitely has a good amount of pop, and a solid rate of fire. If I had to complain about one or the other it would be on the ROF. It is a little bit slower than I would personally like, but I also like to run-and-gun a lot and full-auto is where I live so take that for what it is worth. If you also prefer a bit more rate-of-fire I am sure you will have no trouble getting it as it does have quality internals. (NOTE: Tests done with 8.4v 1600mAh battery which comes with the gun)

The gun performed very well although not flawlessly. When I first started putting rounds through it I noticed that there were some double fires on full auto. It seemed that sometimes when stopping a burst a BB would half load and then when you resumed firing two would come out to start the next burst. This problem began to disappear as I began to put hundreds of rounds through this gun, and it began to perform more reliably. Still though, it will double fire here and there through a hi-capacity magazine, pretty much always while on the ‘full-auto’ setting, and rarely on ‘semi-auto’. Though this would be a bit annoying at times, I do not expect it would really have that much impact on a skirmish where each individual shot does not make all that much of a difference.

Now putting the occasional double fire aside, let’s discuss the performance. The gun shoots with a good amount of velocity, definitely enough to compete at the highest levels of Airsoft. Obviously some guns will out perform this, but the 330+ fps velocity is enough to compete anywhere in my book. It gives you enough range and accuracy to do what you need to do on the field. So even with a beginner’s price tag, you are getting top-notch performance. The gun does shoot accurately; nothing incredible, but also nothing disappointing. The barrel on the M4 is not all that long so you should not expect ridiculous accuracy in the first place, but gun definitely does a more than adequate job of putting the BB on target and being consistent. When firing fully auto the burst of BB’s will follow one after another for perhaps 75-100 feet before beginning to spread out a little more. Considering you have 300 rounds in a magazine, the accuracy is more than enough. Most importantly the gun is consistent. While you may not be able to shoot a coke can from fifty feet on the first try, once you do zero in on it the BB’s will go one after another into the coke can without much adjustment. As far as I can tell this M4’s accuracy has been just as good as any of the other M4’s I have ever used or reviewed (which is a fair amount) with none of them really performing better than another.

Hop-Up Unit

 The hop-up unit is the same as any M4 AEG, you pull back the T-charging handle, which flips open the dust cover, and reveals the adjustable hop-up. You simply move the wheel forward or backward to adjust the hop. The unit does seem to have less range than the other M4's I have dealt with (meaning full hop to no hop does not take that long to spin to) but what effect that has, if any, I have not seen. The only thing I can speculate is that it may be tough to shoot heavy BB's as the hop seems to be nearly all the way up when using .20g and .23g BB's which is what I was using for the review. The unit performed fine as a whole as it was easy to adjust and consistently gave each shot the same amount of hop, giving it solid range and accuracy. 

 Battery

The battery compartment is pretty standard it is located in the front hand guard compartment. It is a little bit of a tight fit as the area in the handguard is not all that big, but it is not too difficult to get it in and out once you get the hang of it. This is using the 8.4volt battery that comes with the gun, if you ever decided to upgrade to a 9.6volt it would a bit tougher. I wish the battery wires were attached somehow to the barrel rather than being loose as they are on this model. It gives you some flexibility but also could lead to the wires coming unplugged if you dropped the battery while still being plugged in. Either way it is still a minor issue

Value

This should be an important consideration to any Airsoft purchase but I think it is especially important to those who are considering this gun. Those interested in getting an AEG but looking at the cheaper ones want the most value out of their purchase or ‘bang for your buck’ if you will. So I will do my best to analyze this gun’s ‘value’.

I doubt TSD will be getting too many complaints on the price of this model as it is simply quite inexpensive for a quality AEG. Yes, it is indeed a good AEG, one that is skirmish ready out of the box. Though it may not have the metal receiver or all the little cosmetic knick-knacks, it will be able to perform with the best, having a very good out of the box velocity and rate of fire. Don’t think for a second that because this a more basic AEG that it would not be able to stand up to those twice its price because that simply is not true (as a side note it would also not be a worthy excuse either “I have a cheaper AEG so that’s why I kept getting hit 5 minutes into the game”)

That being said there is a reason that the higher quality models do cost more and in getting this gun you would have to be willing to accept that. You will have a gun that is mostly plastic except for a couple key components, and you would deal with the occasional mis-fire when going through the magazine.

So overall the value is good, if not great. You are getting an AEG that is game ready out of the box, it looks pretty sharp, and performs well. You lose a little bit with the lower price but really not all that much. You get a high capacity magazine and a very good and long lasting battery. Plain and simple you are getting your money’s worth and if you want to get into Airsoft and are thinking your maximum price range would be $200 you can stop your search because for the price this is a great buy.

Conclusion

I would also make sure you check out the review of the TSD Sports MIL4 Commando and its video review. This TSD product is yet another that gives you excellent value for its price tag, and it seems to be a company with products for every price range. This product puts a little tweak on a classic product (the M4a1) and does it effectively. Hope you enjoyed the review!

Dark_Harvey - July 22, 2010 Great review! I've been nothing but impressed by everything I've heard from TSD/SRC, and it looks like this is another worthy addition to their AEG line. Nice thorough review, good sir!

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Dboys M4 RASII

ORDERING:
I ordered the gun from airsoftmegastore.com for $180 shipped. I ordered from there mainly because they were the only U.S. retailer who offered the gun with full trades. My package arrived in about a week via UPS, pretty much a standard waiting time for me.

THE PACKAGE:
The actual box is a one piece design and the styrofoam package is a two piece case that just slides out. The design on the box is pretty cool looking, but the styrofoam packaging seemed kind of weak. Nevertheless, the gun arrived in fine condition.

The package includes the following:
-The gun (obviously)
-8.4v 1200maH battery and wall charger.
-Fore-grip
-One-point sling
-Front sling mount
-Small screw driver and allen wrench
-Cleaning rod, manual, and crappy bbs.

LOOKS AND FEEL:

First off this gun is beautiful. The pics don't do it nearly enough justice. The gun looks pretty much like your standard CQB M4 but with the noticeable difference of the unique rail system.The RAS is two pieces, top and bottom. The small rail that attaches to the upper receiver is part of the RAS and does not come apart from it. It's overall a very solid gun. Full metal receiver and rail system.

There are awesome trademarks on both sides of the receiver and on the top and right side of the RAS.

Sorry for the quality, my camera gets blurry up close.

No idea why they put the Marine logo on it, but it looks cool anyway.

The battery is stored in the crane stock and goes in fine, but fits a little loosely.

There are only two problems I've had with this gun so far: the stock is a little flimsy and really doesn't feel built very well, unlike the rest of the gun. I plan on buying a new crane stock for it. The other problem (more of a complaint than an actual problem) is that there was a good deal of rust on the plate under the dust cover that covers the hop-up.

I was able to remove a little of the rust by just rubbing it with some sandpaper. 

I wasn't really concerned to much with this since that part has absolutely no effect on the gun other than cosmetics and I usually remove that part anyway just for convenience.

The gun comes with a flip-up back sight. The site is fully adjustable, but I really don't like it only because the peep-hole or whatever the technical name is for it is extremely small, and hard to uses for quick target acquisition.

The 300rd magazine is full metal and also has some trades. I have had no problems with feeding.

Impossible to read... it says:
RESTRICTED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT/
GOVERNMENT USE ONLY 10-94
Heckler&koch Gmbh Heckler&Koch Inc.
Made in Germany Sterling VA

I have no idea why there are H&K trades on it, since the gun is not H&K... but w/e.

The sling is actually very good quality and has worked very well.
This is not the actual sling it came with, but the exact same model (notice the wear)... I had one before and just sold the one it came with.

PERFORMANCE:
For a $180 gun I was very impressed with this guns performance. Out of the box it is shooting very nice at around 370 Fps with .25g bbs. It gets tight groupings at around 120ft. and can easily hit a man sized target at 160ft.

I'll update this later with some target pics and whatnot.

Final thoughts: The Dboys RASII is really an amazing deal for what your getting. I'm very satisfied with my purchase and highly suggest it to any other player on a budget.

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G&G Combat Machine M4A1 Review

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After having a bit of trouble from my current AEG, I began my quest of finding a low-priced secondary AEG that would be both reliable and durable enough to withstand regular use. I jumped from Dboys to JG to Echo 1, and really didn't like what I saw. I even checked the Classic Army sportline models but was not impressed with what they apparently offered internally. I then happened across the G&G Combat Machine M4A1.

After doing my research, I found the G&G Combat Machine series supposedly uses the same gearbox as their professional GR16 series, though I cannot confirm this. For those that may not be aware, the G&G pro series gearbox includes a reinforced version 2 gearbox, steel gears, G&G HiTorque motor, brass bushings, nylon reinforced piston, metal spring guide, etc. In other words, it's a gearbox you can find in no other AEG within this price range. I have also read through multiple sources and it seems the general consensus is that this gearbox will handle up to an M130 spring with no additional modification, though I cannot comment to the full accuracy of that.

The G&G Combat Machine M4 (now referred to as CM M4) is a highly economical version of the already economical sportline GR16 and can currently be found for around the $140 mark. It features a 1-piece zinc barrel assembly, plastic body, and plastic hop-up unit. Surprisingly, even though this gun is priced with the cheap Chinese clones, it still features a tight bore inner barrel.

First Impressions and Appearance

Opening the box the first thing I noted was that externally, the CM M4A1 is a beauty. I opted to order the Airsoft GI Custom model that comes with a full-metal RIS and a Dboys PEQ2 box which you will notice in the pictures. The standard CM M4A1 comes with the AEG, cleaning rod/unjaming tool, 450 round HiCap, barrel plug, and 1000 G&G .20g BBs. It does not come with a battery or charger.

The body, unlike so many other plastic body M4s, is black. This is an excellent touch compared to the grey bodied TMs, JGs, and E1s. It features a USMC logo in place of the trademark and states that it is a AEG made by Combat Machine in Taiwan. I actually have suspicions that this AEG is a rebranded "Combat Machine" brand AEG that G&G threw their gearbox, motor, and hop-up into. Why? No where on the box nor on the externals of the gun does it mention G&G aside from the retractable stock. Either way the gun looks great and the fact that the body is plastic isn't evident until you pick the AEG up to truly examine it. The charging handle (which is a tad bit flimsy) and forward assist work, but have no function. The dust cover stays tightly closed yet is easily opened with a pry of a finger which exposes the front of the gearbox and the hop up unit.

Feel & Build

The gun is actually very solid for a plastic-bodied AEG. Apparently the body is some form of nylon/plastic combination that is supposed to withstand the brutality of a hard-day's play. Since I'm not about to bang the thing up against a rock, I can only say that the body definitely isn't the hard grey ABS plastic body many other AEGs have; this material seems similar to what G36 bodies are fabricated from. The AEG has no barrel wobble like the Tokyo Marui series M4s were notorious for. This truly amazed me, especially considering my model has a metal RIS combined with a plastic body. It does, however, suffer from a bit of barrel tilt. If you torque the barrel left or right like you're screwing it on it tilts, maybe, 1/16th of an inch. Note that this is almost unnoticeable and because it tilts on an axis, it will never affect accuracy. The gun is fairly light as expected with the plastic body, but it still has an extremely solid feel. You can hold it by only the pistol grip all day if you wanted. There are no receiver gaps, loose stocks, rattles, or wobbly barrels that other models may have. In terms of build quality, this is a top-notch plastic-bodied M4. Trust me, I've held many that were not.

Metal content includes: Barrel, front sight, d-ring, mag release, bolt catch, selector switch, trigger guard, buffer tube, charging handle, dust cover, and rear sight. Please note that the gun does not come with a metal flash hider or carry handle. It also appears to me that the barrel and entire front sight are one unit that are cast together.

Performance

With the hop-up adjusted properly and the noted tight-bore inner barrel, the CM M4 ranges just below my AE MP4A4 with an M110 spring (within about 10-15ft). The added barrel length and tight bore make up for the FPS difference between these two. The effective accurate range with .20s is easily 100-120ft. You can hit targets past that in excess of 150+ ft although it won't be excessively accurate. The gun fires with a very crisp sound; it's neither a harsh "WHACK" nor a wimpy grind like some guns have. It's very satisfying to shoot. With an 8.4v 1500mAH battery, the ROF is reasonable though not extreme. If you're looking to get a great ROF from this gun, I highly recommend an 9.6v, especially if you intend to further upgrade it internally. The reinforced gearbox is a bit much on an 8.4v mini battery, though it is manageable. Statistics say the gun fires around the 330fps range, though I expect it to be a bit higher than that. Either way, then gun is a great performer in relation to guns of even a higher class.

 Disassembly & Internals

The CM M4 practically disassembles the opposite of the ICS series of M4s. In order to break apart the receivers, you simply tap out the front body pin just behind the delta ring and pull the lower receiver parallel away from the upper receiver. Doing this gives you access to the hop-up, inner barrel, and the upper part of the gearbox (which you can't do much with). Further disassembly to remove the gearbox involves removal of the motor, rear body pin, mag release, etc.

Unfortunately for this review, I'm not going to comment on the internals. Why? For 1, I'm not going to go inside the gearbox until I get a new M110 spring to install and 2, there are many resources on the internet that have done this previously so I feel it is not immediately needed. I will say, however, that the cylinder of the G&G gearbox is a metallic blue as opposed to the brass-colored ones I'm used to seeing. Note, too, that when I install the new spring in this gun sometime in the future I will be sure to update this portion of the review.

Summary

Overall, I must say this this gun is well worth the money and is leaps and bounds above similarly priced competition especially in terms of internal reliability. The tight-bore barrel, G&G gearbox, and durable body more than makes up for the fact that it does not come with a battery or charger. To be honest, I would recommend this OVER a Tokyo Marui series M4 any day of the week. It's a beautiful, durable, and efficient AEG that can easily take the role of a first/primary AEG or secondary/backup AEG. You really cannot go wrong with this gun.

So, the pros and cons in closing:

PROS:
-Build Quality and appearance
-No notorious barrel wobble
-Excellent gearbox and internals
-Tight bore inner barrel
-Easily adjustable hop-up
-Versatility in terms of accessories
-Moveable charging handle and forward assist
-450 Round HiCap

CONS:
-Slight barrel tilt issue
-Wiring appears to be of a very small gauge
-Plastic body (although durable)
-No metal flash hider included
-No battery/charger included
-Moderate rate of fire on an 8.4v mini battery

INTERNALS

This weekend I finally got the chance to look at the internals of the G&G CM M4A1. A friend needed an SP110 installed in his so I took the opportunity to get plenty of pictures for review purposes.

First off, disassembly is quite complicated for a first-timer like myself. Using the GR16 disassembly guide on YouTube, I was able to have the gun disassembled and the gearbox out in roughly 30 minutes. The trigger body pin gave me the most trouble, but now that I know how everything works, I would estimate disassembly time to be around 15 minutes or so.

Now on to the internals. Upon first glimpse it is seen that the gearbox features copper bushings and what I have now found to be a polycarb selector plate unlike many other guns within this price range; most others have plastic bushings. Also the gearbox and the selector plate denote the GR16 proline "trades". Notice anything unusual?

The gearbox screws are on the left side as opposed to the right.


Inside: Excellently made steel gears, metal spring guide, some weird blue cylinder, a very strong and beefy tappet plate and spring, and what appears to be a polycarb piston, though I cannot confirm this. The bevel gear has 6 anti-reversal notches... something that not even my AE MP5 has. Also the stock spring is a progressive-rate style spring... what I would guess to be an SP100. This gearbox alone is actually very nice for the money. No JG or Classic Army sportline has internals up to par here. Do note, though, that THIS IS NOT THE SAME GEARBOX AS THE PROLINE. The cylinder head, cylinder, and spring guide appear to be the main (possibly the only) differences.

The piston, piston head, and cylinder all look to be fine. I'm not sure about the blue cylinder; it's something I'd never seen before. The piston is very nicely designed with the second to last tooth already removed, and the "first" tooth is metal. Also the piston head is the unique G&G style piston head with the teardrop ports. Spring guide is of beefy metal, but it is not a bearing spring guide.

Piston & Spring Guide

Cylinder & Head:

 Piston Head:

I need to say that I was very surprised to discover one thing... the gun had literally NO, NONE, ZILCH compression! By covering the cylinder nozzle and shoving the piston into the cylinder it would freely glide all the way to the end. An assembly with good compression is nearly impossible to do this with. I swapped the stock o-ring for a #14 O-ring and the compression was stellar. Very, very good seal with the new ring.


Additionally, though not in the gearbox, this is the motor. I cannot say much about it as I don't know a lot about motors but it is a beefy one and is a TAD bit sluggish in an 8.4v. On my friend's 9.6v this thing screams, though.

So... popped the new spring in, assembled everything, and the gun worked fine. Overall, I still highly recommend this over any other gun within its price range including CA Sportline, JG, Echo 1, AND Yes... Tokyo Marui. You just cannot get such a solid gearbox from anything in this range.

As for my rating... I give it an 7.5/10 given the lack of compression and I'm still unsure about the piston material even though it is very well designed. Maybe someone could give me a definite as to whether or not it appears to be a polycarb.

For upgrades to anyone interested I would only really suggest replacing the spring guide with a bearing spring guide, and replace the stock o-ring. The stock spring is slightly weak so anything around an M110 or above would do fine in this box without running the risk of imminent failure. Keep in mind that none of this is necessary... just preference from research I've done.

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doink - February 7, 2010 The O ring is a very unusual very strtchy rubber and the faster the piston head moves the wider it gets so it seams like it has crap compression at first but it actually has awesome compression standard. You can try, the the faster you move the pistion in by hand the tougher it gets. G&G a

Recon72 - February 11, 2010 Would I have to upgrade any internals if I put in a G&G M120 spring? Thanks.

Recon72 - February 11, 2010 Also... Would I have to upgrade the internals if I put a G&G M130 spring in? Thanks.

Slap - June 25, 2010 Looks a type 2 cylinder. If you swap it out for a type 1, your gun will shoot much better. I am assuming from the picture of the gun that the barrel is 363mm

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Real Steel history, short version:
The type 97 is apparently the weapon of choice of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), which is the military force of Mainland China. For more specific (and probably correct) information, check Google.com

Airsoft background:
One of the things that got me really interested in this was the fact that the internals were reversed enginnered to fit in the real steel dimensions. They did that. That means, this is a mass produced AEG rifle that is 1-1 with the real steel in length, thickness and only .2 kilograms (7 ounces) lighter than its real cousin.

Price: 429.99 (airsoftatlanta.com) In fact I think AA is the only domestic retailer that is actively selling the type 97s

Packaging:

If you've seen the reviews of the Type 56s out there, then there's nothing new. It has some nice simple graphics and font. It looks clean. Whoopee.

Inside is your first look at the quality RS is trying to show off. Everything is secured in thick black foam and the mag comes in wax paper (just like real steel mags, I'm told). Included are the gun, the metal(black) flashinder, a small green "oil can" (plastic, but nice touch), instructions, RS catalog and another smaller black container. This smaller container, also plastic, is a very nice touch as its supposed to be the cleaning kit. Inside is the cleaning rod/sight adjustment tool/dejamming tool. Its multiple pieces of metal rods that join together to whichever of the three tools you need.

It looks very nice and smart.

Appearance:
This is definitely something that you either love or hate. It looks like a Famas in its layout with flavors of a G36, but will definitely not be mistaken for either one. Its surprisingly shorter than I thought it would be, approx 29 inches from butt to barrel end and around 9 lbs.

The only trademark is on the magazine well:

TYPE 97
RS000758

I assume that these are individually numbered, but frankly haven't checked because I know of NO ONE else who actually owns one.

Aside from those trades, the only other break in its black color scheme are the marks for the selector switch: S, 1, A.

The sights/handle are strangely high, but it works out when you have to wear a mask.

Build/Feel:

This thing feels VERY nice. It has a very nice weight to it, the center of gravity being between the grip and mag well. A little back heavy, but nothing that has bothered me. In fact, I find that it shoulders a lot easier than my M4.

With the exception of the rubber buttpad, this is all metal and polymer (duralumin). The lower receiver/mag well is metal, as is the barrel (one piece of course) sling loops, sights, grip plate and bolt. Everything else is made of that polymer, which according to Real Sword is the same specs as the real steel weapon.

The foregrip does result in your steadying hand being closer to your body than most weapons (feels kinda like my hand placement on my mp5) so keep that in mind if you have long arms or prefer a wider stance.

Take down:
This is somewhat a mixed blessing. The rifle is designed to be field stripped with the removal of two pins. No tools are technically required for this. Its nothing something I'd recommend doing in the middle of a game because aligning the trigger to the selector bar can be a bit tricky. I've had to use a small screw driver at times to fully match everything up. Its not a huge deal, except you have to remove the lower handguard/grip piece in order to access the battery. RS did try to pro-actively do something about this by making it possible to charge the battery without actually having to remove it. By sliding the grip plate, you can access the connecting wires, and access the battery connectors without removing it.

Inside the grip: Just too small for a mini battery to fit in.

Use/operation/performance:
Like any other AEG, just pop in the battery and mag and start firing. A few things that stand out to me: The selector switch is WAY back on the rifle. And for a bullpup configuration that can be a problem. I keep mine on Auto and just use bursts. The mag release is on the right side of the rifle. Considering the location of the mag well, this does make reloads slower than on an M4, or even an AUG. They actually include a diagram in the instructions on the proper way to change mags. You put the rifle across your check, and use the other arm to access the mag release. A tad awkward to say the least. Apparently this is how the PLA soldiers are taught to change the mags.

As for performance, accuracy is nothing special. Its pretty standard for a stock AEG (once you account for the placement of the sights) with a 1 inch spread on average from 25 feet. They do have youtube videos of the guys are redwolf being able to shoot cigarettes and coins from distances of 10-30 feet. I'm not the best shot, so it could be me. Take it for what its worth.

Velocity is about 280-300 according to the coke can test.

To access the hopup, pull the bolt back about 1.5 inches. There is no way to lock the bolt back and the dial can be difficult to adjust if you have thick fingers or gloves on. The nice thing is, when you set it, it stays.

It uses m16 mags and I have tried out MAG midcaps, TM lowcaps and a CA hicap. It seems to misfeed occasionally with the hicap (do not know if this also applies to the TM hicaps, as I HATE hicaps), but works perfectly fine with the MAG and TM mags. I do have a small concern with plastic mags as the mag catch on the type 97 is held in place with a very heavy spring, and is a very hard metal.


Add-ons/Upgrades:
Ok, this is probably the most interesting part of the review. The real steel rifle has a grenade launcher add-on, special rail for scopes, as well as the ability to take a bayonet. They sell the rail, a hicap mag (standard steel mag is 130 rounds) as well as a “special” sling for the type 97. These are all reasonably priced and can be found here and there (I know airsoftatlanta has them as they are selling the type 97s) Aside from those THREE things, thats pretty much it. So your type 97 is going to look like a type 97.


Internally, the gear box is supposed to be designed to be able to swap in and out springs without having to take the entire thing apart. Due to the new gearbox design, as well as the......relative rarity of the the type 97, I have not opened up the gearbox to upgrade anything. So for now it stays stock.

Personal recommendations/use
I have yet to take this in a formal skirmish but have tested it in simulations. Because it needs a custom battery (that no airsoft store seems to sell) I have actually slapped a guarder external battery pouch on the 97, and just routed the wires along the body from the grip via black tape (yeah I know).

But now I no longer have to worry about battery power since I can just swap it out from the external pouch. The velcro straps of the pouch does block access to the hopup but I haven't had to re-adjust it yet. I have not invested in the rail as I don't generally use a scope.

Conclusions:
Do I recommend this? Not really. To the average airsofter, 430 dollars is VERY pricey, especially with all the Chinese clones that have recently entered the market. Even some collects might turn their nose at it because its visually boring: no real trades, mass produced, build and design BEG it to be used.

This really falls into the niche market of people who have the extra cash, and want a good durable unique rifle. There's very very very few airsoft versions of Chinese weapons so one couldn't even get a proper PLA layout going.

But if you are looking for a very unique rifle, have the extra cash, and can overlook its real steel and airsoft design, then the type 97 might be for you.

Pros:
-Sturdy, well weighted, quality materials
-Bullpup configuration
-Uses m16 mags.
-UNIQUE
-1-1 with real steel. PLA uses them as training weapons! How cool is that? RS also worked with the Chinese government in designing these!

Cons:
-Price
-Look
-Limited accessories
-Few domestic retailers carry this
-Bullpup
-BATTERY requirement/placement. 

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Tokyo Marui Type 89 Rifle
Bringing the Howa Machinery Co. Type 89 to the airsoft scene

Annoying Introduction
As many of you guys know, I picked this gun up back in January. Though I've used them extensively, I'd never personally owned an AEG before, being the team sniper and a classic guy at that. Basically I was just looking for something I'd have around so I could fill into a 'grunt' role if necessary, and that would provide a little AEG experiene (you guys seem to have so much fun with them!).
Before even looking at particulars, I decided I wanted to get a Tokyo Marui. My reasoning there I think is pretty plain. Marui started out back in the day when classic companies were still alive, and they single-handedly brought the electric gearbox into being. Given this is essentially the first AEG I'll own, Marui seems the most logical choice. I've never heard anything but great things about Marui, and I've myself personally experienced the "Marui magic" in my teammates TM M14, and TM's older XM177E2. I didn't want to muck around with any issues much; I just wanted a low-maintenance, reliable gun. To me, this bespeaks Marui.
That figured out, I wanted something that would have a fairly extended accurate range while still being a trim, maneuverable gun. After much deliberation that you're probably not interested in hearing about, I decided on the then-fairly-new Type 89 rifle.

First Impression
I ordered the folding stock model, two 8.4v NiMH batteries, a good charger and two extra TM M16 magazines from Trinity Airsoft. My package arrived in pristine shape two days later (gotta love Trinity).
I must say, Marui is doing a fantastic job with their packaging. The Type 89 box is an attractive matte black with stylish and authentic-looking markings; opening it up, you're presented with one gorgeous rifle, a 20rd. style magazine, a bi-pod and a box of ammo lying nestled in an artistic black drape accented by a fold of JGSDF Shinmeisai camo-patterned material.

 I recall a few things that struck me right off the bat. Primarily, from seeing photos on various retail websites, I'd expected the gun to be fairly sizable. Upon even just opening the box, I was very surprised by what a little rifle it is. Stock folded, it's roughly the same length as an AK47S with stock folded:

 Another size comparison; remarkably, it's really not much smaller than a full size M16:

 So weirdly enough, I have to conclude that it's not a particularly small rifle, it's just so well-engineered that it's not overbearing. Very convenient, very maneuverable, very nice.

Picking up the Type 89 rifle is a treat. Marui has really outdone themselves. They've made the step to metal externals with flying colors; the die-cast metal receivers are beautifully detailed, even featuring fake welds. After six months of being dragged through the bush, the externals show little to no wear. Every part of the rifle is incredibly solid, with no flex, creaks or worry spots whatsoever. It's quite hefty for all its slimness, explained by full metal externals on a solidly-built rifle. It's incredibly comfortable shouldered; I find none of the problems that plague the M16/M4 family with too-low sites. It fits perfectly into a solid shooting position with the stock squarely in your shoulder pocket, a good cheek weld, and the sights naturally lining up comfortably. A great shooters rifle. Not only is the rifle drop-dead gorgeous, it's completely practical.

Details
Marui has incorporated several nifty innovations into this rifle. Most famously, their introduction of a successful mechanical three round burst function (more on this later). The rifle's control layout is basically identical to an M4-style rifle, except that the fire selector switch is located on the right side of the rifle. You hear some guys complain about that, but I haven't found it to be a problem. If you don't know when to have your rifle in what selection, you have more to worry about than the switch. There is however an aftermarket left-side selector available in case it bothers you. The rifle still has the standard Semi and Full automatic fire modes, making for a somewhat interesting selector switch (also complicated by the unfamiliar Japanese markings). Going counter clockwise from top left, it's Safe, FA, 3 rd. burst, Semi. Confusing at first, but you learn it quickly.
The receivers:

 Another cool feature is Marui's re-designed magazine. The Type 89 mag has no 'feed-lips' like standard M16 mags, but fits all the way up into the magwell. The cool part is the new follower, which pushes up thusly, expelling every last round so none are wasted. Cool! The follower can be pushed back down into the mag after all rounds are expelled. And the crowning achievement is, the rifle is still compatible with standard M16 mags. I've used Marui M16 mid-caps, G&G mid-caps, G&P mid-caps, and CA hi-caps, all of which worked perfectly. Beautifully done, Marui.

 I was initially worried that during quick, chaotic mag changes or what-have-you the protruding follower might be snapped off, but it's very sturdy, is allowed some play, and has endured six months of skirmishing to no ill effects. I stamp it Grade A Combat Certified.

The metal charging handle only pulls back a few inches. I admit I'd been hoping they'd follow in the vein of their M14 bolt, but seeing how slim the rifle is I see that wasn't a possibility.

 As you can see, Trinity shipped the gun with the threaded muzzle painted orange, but left the flashhider/muzzle brake (which came unattached) alone. Yay loopholes. Nice touch, Trinity!

 When you attach the muzzle brake, it pretty much completely conceals the orange paint. Put away that can of spray paint, you're good to go!

 Standard things like sling swivels and sights are very well done. I've never used a sling with this rifle, but the swivels are very sturdy, soundly mounted and I'd feel fine using them. Both front and rear sites are adjustable, the rear for both elevation and windage. Just turn dem nobs. The front sight requires a tool for adjustment in the same manner as M4's, and though a tool was not provided I've never felt the need for one. I guess Marui figured airsoft guns aren't going to require adjustment of the front site. I agree.

 The rifle's folding stock is the sturdiest, most completely solid stock I've seen on any folding-stocked gun. It is operated by depressing the button on the fore underside, right behind the pistol grip:

 The Type 89 also accepts an aftermarket rail for mountings for all standard optics via this barely-noticable, low-profile mount atop the upper receiver:

 The rifle uses standard AK-type stick batteries, which go into the handguard. Simply push this pin out (it doesn't come all the way out, which is a nice touch so you won't lose it)..:

..and then push the left handguard forward and off. The battery fits neatly into a little compartment above the barrel where the gas tube of the real rifle would be. You have to fiddle with the wiring to make it fit such that the handguard goes back on; very simple.

 Performance
The Type 89 rifle is one sweet-shooting airsoft gun. The hopup is everything you'd expect from a Marui, highly consistent. I always find myself surprised to remember that this rifle is stock. It's accurate comfortably out to 150ft. despite the stock muzzle velocity, and I've succesfully suppressed targets at 200 or more. I've never chrono'd the gun, but to my best estimates it's around 290-320fps, maybe moderately less than the velocity of a stock TM M14. The shots are very consistent and the hopup provides a very level, flat trajectory. With .25's and a maxed hopup, I was able to achieve a flat trajectory out to 100ft before the round began to drop, which in a stock rifle is pretty impressive. With .20's, you have to fiddle around for the sweet spot, and I've found that .23g's are a perfect median between range, level flight and velocity.

Each mode of fire works perfectly. Semi and Full auto are just as you'd expect them to be. The rate of fire is a good bit slower than a lot of guns, but I've found it doesn't bother me. I'm not the type to require multiple tens of rounds a second; I wouldn't mind if it was a little faster, and if you're a speed-freak you might be upset, but for all practical purposes it's everything I need. The 3-rd. burst is very cool. Very crisp and clean, and as with the real rifles if you release trigger slack in the middle of a burst it stops shooting. However, unlike the real rifle, it then resumes with a fresh full burst of three, rather than finishing up whatever was left over. A change for the better, I'd say. Ultimately, burst mode is useful, fun and provides a definite difference from the norm.

As mentioned above, I've used a variety of bb weights, and found it to perform favorably with all. I've used Airsoft Elite .20g's, .23g's and .25g's, as well as Stealth/TSD .23g's and .25g's. It performs nicely with everything I've fed it so far, but I've found my favorite to be the .23's. They're a perfect weight for the rifle's velocity and hopup in it's stock form.
I've used the Type 89 in games from 30 degree winter days and mild snowstorms to 90 degree, humid summer days in intense dust. With well over 10,000 rounds through the gun over six months of skirmishing in varied conditions, I've never had a misfire or malfunction of any sort.

In conclusion, the Tokyo Marui Type 89 is a fantastic new addition to the Marui family. It upholds the reputation for reliability and performance, and takes huge new strides in terms of externals and build quality. It's a very capable, flexible, and formidable rifle well-suited to a variety of tasks due to its slim design and impressive features. It's solidly constructed, performs brilliantly out of the box, and sets new precedents in innovation. All in all I recommend this rifle most highly to anyone looking for an intermediate to long range weapon platform and/or a solid, all-around shooter's rifle. I could not be more happy with my purchase.

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George Washington - April 30, 2010 You do know that it is against federal law to remove that ugly orange plastic cap from the muzzle of this or any airsoft gun?

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I have had the opportunity to review several of TSD’s products including the TSD Tactical XM8 and TSD Sports M4 AEGs. Both of these products I gave positive reviews for and for both was impressed by their performance considering the price. Now for those of you familiar with those guns or at least with those reviews, I must say that the G36c out of the box is the most impressive. It sports a modest $260 MSRP, higher than the other products I have reviewed but at the lower end of what you would expect to pay for a 330-350 FPS AEG.

The gun comes in what I have come to find is a pretty standard TSD Tactical box. Cardboard with Styrofoam to keep it in place, the box is usually a fold over with an attached lid, and everything comes very neatly packaged. The box is usually made to hold all the models of the particular gun, and comes with the specs listed on the front, with all of the “highlights” of the gun such as in this case the steel gears, 330-380 FPS velocity, pre-installed bushings, metal hop-up and the list goes on. They also include 2 high capacity magazines for this particular gun, which hold 470 rounds each and conveniently snap together. So instantly this small G36c can become somewhat of a force on the battlefield with 940 BBs immediately at its disposable. And there is nothing stopping you (besides perhaps some sort of common sense or feeling of BB conservation) from attaching as many magazines as you want.

Look and Feel

The gun is fairly compact and has a rock solid feel to it. I have searched up and down for a flaw in the guns design, but so far have had no luck. I guess I could be a little picky and complain of it being a little front heavy, but that is expected with a gun with the battery in the front and even that is hardly noticeable on this model. The receiver is very realistic on this gun as it is made of nylon, which is reinforced by fiberglass. Definitely a much better feel than your typical plastic found on AEGs, and gives it a more authentic feel. Everything about the build of this gun was done the correct way, and that really reminds me of what you would expect from a company like Tokyo Marui. Like with Tokyo Marui’s this model does not possess any noticeable defects, and the operation of the gun is flawless out of the box. Obviously we will have to wait and see how this holds up.

The only other G36c I have had the opportunity to use was the Tokyo Marui G36c when it first became available several years ago. A guy I played with fairly often got it, so I got to see it in action up close. One problem which plagued that gun was the selector switches would fall off fairly frequently, and the one on the right side of the gun was eventually lost. Appropriately I guess, on this gun the selector switch on the right side also fell off, but it would only take some tightening with a hex wrench to keep that thing on. I imagine it will be kind of an annoyance since it will have to be something to worry about, but since that is the only flaw I have found so far I think I am just going to deal with it.

While holding and aiming the gun I absolutely fell in love with it. It is compact but yet big enough to be comfortable for my 6’ frame. Feels solid in my hands and is very easy to move about with. The one concern of those who have tried the gun (besides me) is where to put your front hand, as there is a rail underneath the front part of the gun. My response to that is getting a vertical grip to mount onto the rail. For me personally I naturally hold the gun in front of the rail and that is perfectly fine, but if you happen to pick up the gun and want a better place for your front hand, the rail in the front provides an alternative option for you (which does make the gun look that much more awesome by the way).

Performance

The guns performance is pretty impressive. It does exactly what you would expect it to do, shooting in the 350 fps range with .20g BB’s and out of the box is very consistent. This gun has a good ROF with the 8.4v 600 mAh battery I was using. The gun fired noticeably faster than the TSD Sports M4 but still not too large of a difference there. The gun seems to have a lighter trigger than most guns I am experienced with, it seems that on semi it only takes a little more than a tap to squeeze off a round. Each shot is also accompanied by a pretty satisfying ‘pop’ noise. It is rare that I am satisfied with the sounds of an AEG firing, they usually sound too electronic and machine like for my taste (because that is exactly what they are obviously) but this one had a noticeably different sound to it. I would definitely check out the video review so that you can experience it for yourself.

The more I fired and tested this gun the more I liked it. The one flaw however also comes back to the selector switch as I mentioned before. It is on both sides of the gun to make the weapon suitable for both right and left handed shooters as is done with the real steal version. In addition to the selector switch on the right side (for left handed shooters) falling off, the switching mechanism is not 100% smooth. Now it really was not all that bad, as it will ‘click’ into place at semi, auto and safe, and the most important thing, the safe, works perfectly. But what did occur a couple times during the testing phase was it would go a little beyond semi-auto too easily, and be in fully automatic when I in fact thought I had switched it to semi. So pushing it just pass the semi slot is a little too easy and will cause it to fire in full auto. Is this really that big of a deal? No not really, it is a very common flaw in AEGs and usually becomes more common in AEGs as they get used and worn down, but I figured I would point it out anyway.

The role of this gun really reminded me of the M4a1. It is a compact gun that is very easy to move around with, and packs a pretty solid punch with a good combination of ROF and accuracy. This gun will definitely be able to perform right up there with any of the AEGs I have ever owned, and out of the box is superb. As is always the case durability will be the main factor, and so far none of the AEGs from TSD which I have tested have had any mechanical problems (knock on wood), but that is not to say that it could not happen. But so far so good, this now is the third TSD AEG I have reviewed and like the others its out of the box performance is rock solid.

I would also like to take the time to mention a problem which occurred with the XM8 from TSD Tactical I had, and that is the gun stopping when trying to shoot rapidly under semi-automatic. This has happened to me with every AEG I have ever owned at some point and tends to happen more when the battery gets weaker. With the XM8 I noticed it happening more frequently than other AEGs, so every time I tried to fire as fast as possible on semi it would lock up and I’d have to switch to full auto and fire a few before being able to switch back to semi. The G36c has no problem like this and I would not expect it ever to happen to you while skirmishing. I was able to force it to lock up once or twice but it took an absurdly high rate of trigger pulls on semi to cause it to happen, and you should never be pulling the trigger like that anyways. So for raw performance this gun was nearly perfect.

The Battery

The battery compartment is extremely easy to use, especially considering its unique positioning on the G36c. In order to get to the compartment you must remove a pin at the top of the handguard, which slides the handguard and the RIS rails completely off of the gun. You then see where the battery plugs in, and simply plug it in and slide the whole front handguard back on and put the pin back in. Simple and painless. Now despite what some may think the battery compartment does have plenty of space, and should be able to fit a 9.6v battery quite easily. I base a lot of this on the fact that the 8.4v battery moves around a fair amount within the compartment. This may annoy some out there, so you should know that the battery will move around inside the compartment if it is an 8.4v and will make a fair amount of noise. It would not be much trouble at all to make some adjustments to remove the noise and rattling altogether, but the bright side is that the extra space means more options. Usually the more space the better since then you are able to fit a larger battery in there. I do not plan on testing anything radical, but a 9.6v battery should fit in there perfectly.

Stock

The stock folds in to the right hand side of the gun, and snaps into place. When bringing it back it also makes a clear and reassuring ‘clank’ back into the regular position. The stock appears to be very well made and it appears to be the same material as the receiver (nylon reinforced with fiberglass). The stock is pretty lightweight however and this is because of its design. There really is not much to the stock and this is what causes a feeling of the gun being front heavy, but it really is not as bad as I would have expected considering the design. The stock is always a risky point for breaking, but I do think this stock will hold under a beating. That is not to say it will not break, but it would require a large amount of pressure to actually break this thing; it is rock solid. The stock also has a hold for mounting a sling if you are looking to do that.

As a little bit of a side note, if you place with the stock folded in, you can not really clamp magazines together as it does not give you much room to slide the two magazines down, since the stock is in the way.

Accessories

This gun comes with a total of four metal rails for mounting all sorts of accessories. There are three on the front hand guard, two on either side and one on the bottom. There also is nice long rail on top of the gun for adding any sort of aftermarket sights you might want. For those of you looking to have a unique gun on the field, or a unique set up these rails will come in handy. Anything from an additional grip, to a flashlight, to a laser can be added fairly easily to this thing adding both to the look and performance of the gun. So right out of the box this product gives you more options than most Airsoft guns out there for customizing and changing it around.

Two of the front rails, there is a third on the side you can not see

Top rail for mounting sights

Magazines

From my experience with the Tokyo Marui G36 magazines I was a bit suspicious of these, because with the Marui magazines I have seen, they would break (the attachment pieces) and several times the screw on the bottom would loosen causing the magazine to start slipping apart. Both of these problems are not a big deal, and are avoidable. For the attachments make sure you are always turning the magazine the right way when unclamping and do not drop them while attached. Then you also should make sure the screw on the bottom is tight and that will prevent it from falling apart. Both of these things seem to happen over time not right away so I will keep you updated. I do have the advantage of seeing the XM8’s magazines which are the exact same thing and while they did not fall apart like Marui’s they had the same problem with the attachments being broken off as that did happen in a skirmish.

Overall these magazines are well made, and perform very well. They are mechanically sound which is the most important thing and shoot nearly all 470 rounds without additional winding. The other little issues though annoying at times are not all that important and seem to be unavoidable with this product type.

Hop Up Unit

As advertised this gun comes with a metal V3 hop-up unit. It performs as expected and I had no trouble changing BB weights from .20g all the way to .28g and everywhere in between. It seems pretty solid and stable, and shot consistently for the 1,000 or so rounds I tested with each setting. To reveal the hop-up unit you must pull back the loading handle which can conveniently be pulled back from either side making it easier on lefty shooters. Pulling back the handle removes the dust cover, where on a real steel gun the shell would be ejected, and on this gun houses the hop-up unit.

Metal hop-up unit revealed

Charging handle which can go to either side and a spring will recenter it once you let go.

Who should get this gun?

To me this gun is like an M4a1 but for someone who does not want to be cliché. At times it feels like all there are on the skirmish field is M16’s and M4’s and to a certain extent that is true. So if you are looking to be different but want the same type of gun then the G36c might be for you. Why do I compare it to the M4? Similar size, similar roles as a result; it can perform in both close quarters and outdoors in the woods. They also both have a lot of accessory options. The M4 more because it is such a popular gun, and the G36c because it comes with the extra rails.

As for those who love the look of this gun in the pictures, I would also recommend it as it definitely lives up to the look with its rock solid feel in your hands. Anyone looking to play Airsoft and wants to have one AEG to perform in nearly any role this would be a good gun. It is compact with a good ROF for close quarters, but yet is still big enough with good enough performance to play at the longest ranges. The only role which you really could not take on is that of a sniper, and that is expected of any AEG for the most part.

This gun also comes pre-upgraded, and from my experience with all the TSD guns the upgrades seem to be well done as I have yet to have any issues up until this point (knock on wood). This added velocity does make a big difference on the skirmish field and is kind of becoming the new “stock” velocity for companies with the exception of Tokyo Marui of course. So this gun really does give you all the options and sets you up to perform right out of the box. All you would really need besides this gun is a battery and charger and you would be ready to go.

Overall

Overall I am excited about this gun. It feels great, looks great, and performs great out of the box and that is always exciting. I personally really like the look of the G36’s and think it is a very unique series that performs up there with the best of them. If the G36c is not the exact model you are looking TSD Tactical also makes the G36k which is the longer version which is more of an assault rifle.

This gun really does everything right, and is satisfying to use. Assuming the durability holds up this might be one of my favorite guns. The only flaw I could find was the selector switch for left handed shooters wobbled off, but with a hex wrench that can easily be tightened and fixed. Other than that I really have nothing bad to say about this gun and therefore recommend it to anyone out there interested.

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j0shuaramz - September 9, 2008 Nice review - awesome gun. When i get more into the better airsoft guns im looking forward to buying this gun.

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First off are the externals. CA was striving to create a more realistic feeling AK when they came out with the steel version. The currently produce AK101s and variants in both "Steel"ť and regular pot metal versions. The pot metal is almost a 100% replica of a TM AK with the exception of all metal parts where metal is used. The "Steel"ť version came out a few months later. They sport real hardwood grips which makes them ultra realistic. I have had many people comment upon the realism while they were holding the weapon. The second part is the steel body which is formed much like the real AK. They have similar metal grain patterns and even have little perks added in like the trigger guard spacer and single bolt rear stock which add leave many people astonished that they aren't real AK's.

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